by Stuart Livesey
Let me say right at the start that what I’m about to say is strictly our experience only. Other people may have a better or a worse experience than we have had so far.
Background
For some time now Toni and I have each run a small online shop in addition to Toni’s web design and copywriting business. The items that Toni sells can be sourced from just about anywhere in the world. The items that I sell are mostly manufactured in China and I’ve been sourcing them from a variety of wholesalers here in Australia and from eBay as well.
A new importer - who will be sourcing much of their stock from China and Vietnam - is commencing business here in Australia in the next few weeks and we’ve been asked to design their website for them. When they found out that we would be interested in buying from them they very kindly gave us direct access to their buyers and agents.
So we decided to start looking for the products I need for my store direct from China and for the last 10 days I’ve been having a very interesting time trying to source one particular piece of computer equipment to help give us some ‘feel’ for how things work when you deal with businesses in China
Our Experience
We started off by looking around the Web for manufacturers and came across Alibaba.com. This is one of a number of portals that puts buyers in touch with sellers in China and to use the service properly you have to register. Registering is free and quite easy to do.
Alibaba also supplies an instant messaging system that you can download and is quite a valuable tool.
Then we posted an expression of interest on Alibaba complete with a photo of what we were looking for. Ultimately we must have heard from 40 or 50 different Chinese businesses who all said that they could supply what we wanted. Sadly, not one of them really could.
Rather than go into all the gory details of the time we wasted here is what we learned from the experience.
Lots of people will tell you that they’re manufacturers of the products you want but after you’ve looked at eight or nine of their websites it soon becomes apparent that they’re just wholesalers who all have access to the same manufacturers.
Even though you might be quite explicit in the information you post about the product you want to buy many of these wholesalers are going to try and sell you on what they have rather than what you want. We stated that we were prepared to buy just 20 of the item we were looking for but most of those who contacted us didn’t want to deal in orders that small.
Dollar amounts quoted are definitely not firm and when you do get a price don’t expect it to be the final price or to include all the costs. One supplier did give us a unit price of $7.52 on the Monday - on something that was close to what we wanted - but by the time we were ready to do the deal on the Friday that had blown out with the addition of $50 bank charges - something that hadn’t been mentioned on the Monday - and a supposed price increase that just happened to have occurred the day before. The deal stopped right there!
If you register at places like Alibaba and you include your phone number in your details expect to get some phone calls from Chinese sales people who can’t speak much English and don’t understand that Australia is not in the same time zone as America.
Even though you may clearly indicate that the business that’s trying to sell something to you does not supply what you want don’t expect them to stop trying. One wholesaler who claimed to manufacture nVidia graphic cards kept trying to contact me for four days even though all I wanted to buy was 20 very specialised flash drives.
Many of the suppliers we encountered wanted to be paid by Western Union - even some Chinese will warn you that Western Union is a favourite with scammers. We found out later that someone we know personally lost $15k when he paid for some equipment from China via Western Union.
We never did find a true manufacturer for what we wanted.
All in all it was a very interesting experience and one that has definitely put us off trying to do business remotely with any Chinese suppliers. We’ll certainly be taking up the offer of using the importer’s buyers to directly source items for us but we won’t be trying it ourselves again any time soon.